Wednesday, September 21, 2011

221) Emanuelle (1974) and 222) Red Rock West (1993)

221) Emmanuelle (1974) Dir: Just Jaeckin Date Released: December 3, 1973 Date Seen: May 28, 2011 Rating: 3/5

222) Red Rock West (1993) Dir: John Dahl Date Released: April 8, 1994 Date Seen: May 28, 2011 Rating: 3.5/5

The estimable Steve Carlson and I live-tweeted these two disparate films back-to-back because they were about to become unavailable via Netflix's Instant Viewing option. So we said, what the fuck, let's have some drinks and live-twee this. And wouldn't you know, I saved our tweets? Read this as a transcription of a commentary track but remember: on Twitter, you start at the bottom and go up. Oh, and enjoy. Or else.


Simonsaybrams:   Hearing @LCosgrove drunk on the phone a moment ago was the perfect way to end tonight's livetweet. Gnight. #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:57:23 AM EDT


BadIdeaPodcast:                 @simonsaybrams BLOOD SIMPLE is a masterpiece regardless of genre; this is "merely" an exemplary neo-noir. #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:43:45 AM EDT

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@BadIdeaPodcast Problematic but very good, in other words. #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:42:43 AM EDT


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@BadIdeaPodcast I like this a bunch but its bookends bother me too much; BLOOD SIMPLE is great neo-noir, not this. #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:42:14 AM EDT

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So someone saw THE KILLING, maybe? #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:41:53 AM EDT
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@simonsaybrams Yeah, but unlike most, Dahl could have been that man. #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:40:57 AM EDT
           
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"There's a door. I suggest you use it." Hell yes! #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:40:25 AM EDT
           
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@simonsaybrams I do own the 2-disc DVD release, though, so.... some day. #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:39:56 AM EDT
           
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@simonsaybrams When your day job eats up 60 hrs of yr week, 3 hr movies take some time to catch up with. #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:39:22 AM EDT

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Every man wants to be the one that rescues noir, just like very man wants to be the one to rescue the Muppets. #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:38:58 AM EDT
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@BadIdeaPodcast What. The hell. Are doing with your life. Seriously? You haven't seen it?!? #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:37:18 AM EDT
            

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Hey hey the I CAN HEAR YA FUCKIN RADIO moment! #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:36:11 AM EDT
           
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@simonsaybrams Fuck you I haven't seen that yet I suck #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:35:46 AM EDT

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@BadIdeaPodcast I mean, we're not talking the opening of ONCE UPON A TIME IN THE WEST, are we? #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:35:11 AM EDT

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@simonsaybrams I do. It's an iconic setup (drifter, blue-collar, promised job not given, mistaken identity). #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:35:08 AM EDT
           
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@simonsaybrams (And yeah, I know BODY HEAT was '83. But name a straight-faced noir between that and RED ROCK.) #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:34:02 AM EDT

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@BadIdeaPodcast I don't see that opening as being a successful commentary or response to that though. #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:33:22 AM EDT
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@simonsaybrams BODY HEAT started it; this and LAST SEDUCTION concreted it in my opinion. #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:33:09 AM EDT
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@simonsaybrams That's kinda the whole point of neo-noir - take a moribund genre and push it further than it ever was. #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:32:41 AM EDT
           
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@simonsaybrams But noir, as a genre, was dead in the '90s. Irony/changing mores killed it. #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:31:59 AM EDT
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@simonsaybrams Diff strokes there, bud. #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:31:05 AM EDT

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@BadIdeaPodcast I don't. I don't need to know that noir is self-conscious for it to put the pedal to the floor & move. #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:30:49 AM EDT
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@simonsaybrams But that's a discussion too long for 140 characters. #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:30:32 AM EDT
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@simonsaybrams I also think the inherent pomo irony of the setup is chief in the success of what we're now watching. #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:29:59 AM EDT
           
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@BadIdeaPodcast Or at least, it needn't be. #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:29:37 AM EDT


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@BadIdeaPodcast Point being, intentional or not, Cage's performance is @ one point distractingly wobbly & it shouldnt be. #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:29:11 AM EDT


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@simonsaybrams I think the whole film has rocked. But yes yes totally yes to the last 20-30 minutes. #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:28:57 AM EDT

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@BadIdeaPodcast Even if I bought yr interpretation, wouldnt u say that the straight-faced last 20-30 minutes have rocked? #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:27:44 AM EDT

           
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Holy shit that shot of shattering glass #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:26:17 AM EDT
           
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Fuck yeah train dodge! #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:24:22 AM EDT
           
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25 minutes before I can pee. #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:22:34 AM EDT
           
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JESUS, NO! #redrockemmanuelle #fuckyeah May 29, 2011 12:20:03 AM EDT

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@simonsaybrams Fuck yeah roll that awesome around on your tongue. #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:19:47 AM EDT
           
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Dennis Hopper is a badass tell him he's a badass #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:19:11 AM EDT

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That long silence is the sound of me appreciating quietly. Savor it, @LCosgrove. #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:18:45 AM EDT
           
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Holy shit this movie's a pisser. #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:15:29 AM EDT
           
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FUCK MEXICO!!!!! #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:14:45 AM EDT
           
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@simonsaybrams POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP. #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:12:08 AM EDT
           
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BLUE VELVET POV SHOT! #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:11:53 AM EDT


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@BadIdeaPodcast And I think you're a stupid doodyhead too. #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:11:24 AM EDT
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@simonsaybrams I think you're wrong on both counts but we shall break that down tomorrow. #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:10:49 AM EDT

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@BadIdeaPodcast No, he's very genuine in BL and WM is straight-faced for him. He's in on the joke but not showing it. #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:09:12 AM EDT 
           
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@simonsaybrams Gonna disagree bud and leave it there because I'm getting distracted from the awesome movie. #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:08:54 AM EDT
           
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@simonsaybrams ...or not (WICKER). #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:08:08 AM EDT
           
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@simonsaybrams That's part of the charm - Cage meeting the material at its intended level, whether intentional (BL:POCNO) #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:07:43 AM EDT


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@BadIdeaPodcast You're excusing stiff acting by saying that's the film. It's not: Cage is not being ironic. #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:07:13 AM EDT

           
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@simonsaybrams Like hell he doesn't do ironic. WICKER MAN and BAD LIEUTENANT: POCNO are thoroughly ironic. #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:06:41 AM EDT
           
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@simonsaybrams But this film is self-conscious by definition and practice. He was just dancing to the music. #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:05:47 AM EDT


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@BadIdeaPodcast He doesn't do ironic. He does labored, semi-well-balanced and way over-the-top. He started w/the former. #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:05:36 AM EDT
           

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@BadIdeaPodcast No, actually, I wasn't. I was saying he was self-conscious. Not a contradiction. #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:03:23 AM EDT

           
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@simonsaybrams You overestimate the sincerity of Cage in my opinion. Weren't you complaining about his ironicness? #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:02:02 AM EDT


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This bar tender looks like David Paymer but it's not David Paymer. May 29, 2011 12:01:20 AM EDT
           
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Look at the severe shape of Lara Flynn Boyle's eyes. She was born 50 years too soon. #redrockemmanuelle May 29, 2011 12:00:12 AM EDT

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@BadIdeaPodcast Not really. He's trying to be sincere, which is fruitless, really. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:59:47 PM EDT

           
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$1.08 gas. Fuck you, 1994. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:58:45 PM EDT
           
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@simonsaybrams Nuh-uh. NUH-UH. He's fluctuating between irony and sincerity just as the script does. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:57:54 PM EDT
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Empty. Soooooo DETOUR-level noir. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:56:55 PM EDT

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@BadIdeaPodcast No, not in the first half hour. He's figuring out how to play a blank slate as he goes. Bad, Stahl, bad! #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:56:46 PM EDT


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"I don't want to be here when Lyle from Dallas wakes up..." I thought he was still conscious? A little? #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:56:01 PM EDT
            
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@BadIdeaPodcast I'm still here, magn. May 28, 2011 11:54:20 PM EDT

           
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@simonsaybrams Dude, Cage is playing the material as it needs to be played scene to scene. YOU'RE WROOOOOONG! #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:54:17 PM EDT 
           
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This scene. This one right here. Cage has hit his stride finally. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:52:49 PM EDT



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@BadIdeaPodcast Hahaha. Oh man, that's gonna happen to me in a bit, I bet. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:47:37 PM EDT
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Fuck shit balls fuck Twitter. @LCosgrove is over his limit, and @simonsaybrams is probably near if not already there. #redrockemmanuelle 10:52 PM May 28th
            
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FUCK YEAH PHANTOM HAND AND DWIGHT YOAKAM! #redrockemmanuelle 10:49 PM May 28th
           
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@simonsaybrams Pace that shit then, fucker! #redrockemmanuelle 10:48 PM May 28th

Simonsaybrams:   "Well, don't piss on the seat, even if they did. It's not lucky." That right there I believe was Hopper improving. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:45:26 PM EDT

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I'll bet the resemblance to Frank Booth is intentional. #redrockemmanuelle 10:46 PM May 28th

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I like the way Cage snaps back at Hopper here. So there's that. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:42:25 PM EDT

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LCosgrove:                 ENTER DENNIS FUCKING HOPPER. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:40:05 PM EDT

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The way this film divots from irony to sincerity kind of reminds me of the tone of RAVENOUS' first act. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:39:50 PM EDT

           
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This stand-off is perfect neo-noir. PERFECT. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:38:48 PM EDT

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In other words, it replays in your head almost instantly thereafter: no traction, the body tumbling over the hood. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:36:55 PM EDT

           
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It's like, yeah, it knows it's genre, and it knows you know it's genre. But LCosgrove:                 in between irony and sincerity... #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:36:15 PM EDT

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I love the way Dahl shot that accident. Fatalism inherent in it builds in intensity as it becomes an afterthought. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:35:51 PM EDT


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Honestly, I'm seeing this as the rare work where the scare quotes around everything work in its favor. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:35:12 PM EDT
           
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@simonsaybrams Aw come on! "I was in the red zone and I was gonna move it..." That's genius there! #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:33:29 PM EDT

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NC doesn't need to go crazy to lose himself in a role but that's usually how he does it. Not feeling it here. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:32:58 PM EDT
           
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@simonsaybrams Exactly. It's Cage. CAAAAAGE. Give 'im a chance. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:32:39 PM EDT
           
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@simonsaybrams It's also thoroughly fucking terrific. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:31:59 PM EDT

Simonsaybrams:   Ok, better line delivery: the repetition of "Get a fuckin' doctor!" #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:31:50 PM EDT
           
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@simonsaybrams I mean, if you really want to get into it, DETOUR is thoroughly mannered and self-conscious. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:31:39 PM EDT

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@LCosgrove The difference is that I buy Dahl's delivery. I don't buy Cage's. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:31:00 PM EDT
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@simonsaybrams The test is whether you can fit mannered/self-conscious into a film that still allows room for life. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:30:56 PM EDT
           
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@simonsaybrams Genuine and self-conscious are not mutually exclusive. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:28:12 PM EDT
           
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@vjmfilms Well, I don't care. She's still covered in freckles and she's pre-anorexia. Me like. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:27:32 PM EDT

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@LCosgrove Diagree; his flailing about is usually pretty genuine, unrehearsed if that makes sense. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:26:57 PM EDT

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Holy shit Lara Flynn Boyle is covered in freckles is this what you mean @vjmfilms because if so I totally understand #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:25:40 PM EDT 
           
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@simonsaybrams In fact, I'd argue that Cage's self-consciousness is omnipresent and that's why he's valuable. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:24:41 PM EDT
           
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@simonsaybrams Which is to say, he's always this self-conscious. Birth of the cool and all that. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:23:33 PM EDT
           
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@simonsaybrams Nuh-uh. NUH-UH! #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:22:47 PM EDT

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Cage's acting is off. I've rarely seen him this self-conscious. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:22:03 PM EDT

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@simonsaybrams Oh, I knew. I just didn't realize how textbook. GODDAMN I AM SO HAPPY RIGHT NOW. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:21:39 PM EDT

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@LCosgrove How did you not know that that's what this film was going into it? #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:20:07 PM EDT

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There are few character actors more missed than the great J.T. Walsh. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:19:36 PM EDT via web
            
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Oh my god this is so rigorously noir it's kinda giving me a semi (more than you needed to know) #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:18:44 PM EDT

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Ah, we're in James Cain territory. I like, I like. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:17:04 PM EDT via web
            
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Fuck, this is the Nic Cage that DRIVE ANGRY needed. Seriously. Laconically cool, yet ferocious. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:15:59 PM EDT
           
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@simonsaybrams THAT'S JUST HOW GODDAMNED COOL HE IS. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:14:56 PM EDT

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It takes balls to wear a denim jacket /and/ jeans. Nic Cage-sized balls. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:14:14 PM EDT

           
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I'm sure Nic asked Dahl to add the push-up bit. "No, no, see, it'll add character." "Ahright, ahright, do it." #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:12:13 PM EDT

                       
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Okay this has officially been running for less than 5 minutes and already I'm like this is awesome what was I waiting for #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:12:03 PM EDT
           
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Nicolas Cage's feet are weirdly womanly. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:10:24 PM EDT

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Wait, Dan Shor? As in the reporter? #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:10:24 PM EDT

           
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John Dahl. This guy should be so much bigger. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:09:54 PM EDT
            
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@simonsaybrams Ready when you are, Sergeant Pembroke. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:08:58 PM EDT


Simonsaybrams:   So how we doin' out there tonight? Doin' good? Good. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:08:14 PM EDT
           
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@simonsaybrams You say bathroom, I say wine. Got a bottle of recently-opened Bordeaux that ain't gonna finish itself. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:05:21 PM EDT

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In other words, the welcome wore itself out. Oh well. But hey, credits. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:04:16 PM EDT

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Five minute bathroom break. Back at 11:08pm with RED ROCK. May 28, 2011 11:04:07 PM EDT


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This freeze frame brings to mind the one that ends THE LIVES OF OTHERS. #noitdoesnt #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:03:52 PM EDT via web

           
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I would prolly like this high-toned semi-porn better if it wasn't intent on announcing its high-tonedness in every frame.#redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:03:37 PM EDT

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I dig this echoey repetition of dialogue we JUST heard. The guy's got a Shatner-esque voice so I'm in beat heaven. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:03:17 PM EDT

           
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"Let us borrow darkness, for the night is not for you." The lamest VAMPIRE: THE MASQUERADE LARPer ever. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:01:18 PM EDT
           
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Lady, I'm pretty sure there's ways to get to your epiphany that don't involve BECOMING A DIRTY WANTON WHORE. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 11:00:28 PM EDT
           
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Lessons learned: Becoming a dirty whore in Thailand is a path to true transcendence. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:59:25 PM EDT

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Well, I guess after she licked his eyebrow, there was only one way this scene /could/ end. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:58:31 PM EDT

           
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There's only, like, six minutes left in this film. How is this the climax? #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:58:11 PM EDT
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"Gentlemen - welcome to Thai Fight Club." #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:56:36 PM EDT
           
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No holes barred? Doesn't sound like boxing to me... #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:56:15 PM EDT

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"It's a Thai boxing match." Oh, that's what it is? Ok. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:55:48 PM EDT

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"The true definition of love is the erection, not the orgasm." This guy reads a lot of Bataille, I bet. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:55:03 PM EDT
           
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"I'm known... as a collector." But you don't look like Terence Stamp.... #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:54:27 PM EDT
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"I collect--situations." Insert JERSEY SHORE joke here. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:54:01 PM EDT
           
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From rape to TROPICAL MALADY! wHEEEEEEE! #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:53:39 PM EDT
           
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Where's Peter Brotzmann when you need him in my opinion. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:53:10 PM EDT
           
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Gang rape, opium and free jazz. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:52:45 PM EDT

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Suddenly, little Thai rapists. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:52:28 PM EDT via web
            
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Timothy Leary, ladies and gentlemen! #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:52:20 PM EDT

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Tonight on competitive opium smoking: Jean Gabin Lite vs. That Dude. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:51:44 PM EDT

           
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Is he smoking opium or playing the flute? #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:51:34 PM EDT
           
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Greater lucidity? Isn't that a Queensryche song? #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:49:53 PM EDT
           
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Only a few ever visit the Land of Eroticism because the customs check-in is pure hell. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:49:15 PM EDT

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Scenes from an Opium Den: "What's up?" *keffakaffakaaf* "Oh, dear." #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:48:40 PM EDT

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Hey, look - Inspector Abbeline is here! #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:48:23 PM EDT
            
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@simonsaybrams Hopper nuthin'. That was Harry Dean Stanton and you know it. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:47:42 PM EDT

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And gets cock-blocked by a Jean Gabin look-alike #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:47:15 PM EDT via web
            
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What's with the distaff Animals on the soundtrack? We gotta get outta this place, indeed. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:47:11 PM EDT
           
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@simonsaybrams YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN HERE. (No really. It wasn't very good wine. I could have used some help.) May 28, 2011 10:46:48 PM EDT 
           
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"All fear should be totally abolished." How would you enforce that, exactly? #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:46:11 PM EDT

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Hark, a young Dennis Hopper approaches. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:46:00 PM EDT


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@LCosgrove I HAD NO WINE. WHERE WAS MY WINE? #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:45:40 PM EDT via web in reply to LCosgrove

           
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Holy shit Sylvia Kristel is so adorable here I just want to take her home and make her tea #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:43:59 PM EDT
           
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"Go see Mario, Emmanuelle. And his brother Luigi. They've both had Mushrooms, so they're big, if you know what I mean." #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:42:10 PM EDT
           
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"Should I tell you what I think?" "NO!" OH SHIT YOU GOT PWNED BY EMMANUELLE SHUT UP BEEOTCH #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:40:58 PM EDT

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@LCosgrove I'm pretty sure it's got the bush bush bush and the lesbian sex. But the tennis, aha, that's where Tarr fails. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:40:26 PM EDT
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"It was practically rape." Like a lot of erotica, the definition of rape is reeeeeal flexible here. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:40:08 PM EDT


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@simonsaybrams Does SATANTANGO have lesbian sex and tennis and bush bush bush? I think not! #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:39:28 PM EDT
           
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Fuck watching SATANTANGO--here's where it's at tonight. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:38:29 PM EDT

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@simonsaybrams Maybe it's because Kristel's persona is eager-but-remote - the tears-in-the-rain shit is too emo for that. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:37:01 PM EDT

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Now Ferby Hancock, Herby's third cousin, once removed, steps in on the soundtrack. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:36:01 PM EDT

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@simonsaybrams Yes, actually. That struck me as heavy-handed in a way that the rest of the film hasn't. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:35:55 PM EDT

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@LCosgrove When/what we doing? After RED ROCK, you call, yhear? May 28, 2011 10:35:31 PM EDT

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Porn is a decadent genre, so the mileu of EMMANUELLE is not just appropriate but fairly canny. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:35:22 PM EDT

Simonsaybrams:   @LCosgrove As opposed all of the /appropriate/ uses of visual cliches? #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:34:59 PM EDT

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@simonsaybrams And I'm-a slay you tomorrow for that awful wordplay. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:33:59 PM EDT
           
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@LCosgrove He comes later. Geddit? He comes--later! Ah, I slay me. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:33:05 PM EDT


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Ooh, poor use of visual cliche there, Just. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:33:01 PM EDT
           
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@simonsaybrams So where's Howard Cosell? #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:32:24 PM EDT

            
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/Now/ I know who this chick's voice reminds me of: Louise Lasser in BANANAS. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:31:35 PM EDT
           

           
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@simonsaybrams Maybe not decked, but you'd get geek-slapped at the least. May 28, 2011 10:30:23 PM EDT
            
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Hey, when did this become a Women-In-Prison flick? #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:29:58 PM EDT

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@LCosgrove The San Diego Comic Con. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:29:37 PM EDT
           

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"Boy, your wife has the greatest tits!" Name any place in the world where that wouldn't get you decked. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:28:39 PM EDT


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I'm pretty sure one of the bar's patrons just drunkenly yelled, "Hallelujah!" #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:28:39 PM EDT

           
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This lesbian stage show is a lot better than the smoking vagina. Let's never speak of that again. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:28:11 PM EDT via web
            
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@simonsaybrams Um.... maybe later. I am kinda worked up, after all.... #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:26:30 PM EDT

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I hope that stripper has dental. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:26:22 PM EDT

           
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WHOA WHOA WHOA NOT COOL JUST NOT COOL!!!! #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:25:44 PM EDT

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I guess watching a Thai stripper smoke a ciggy with her vag is all part of the sexual revolution. But still: huh? #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:25:51 PM EDT


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@LCosgrove When did I deny that? I said the sex scenes were effective. Suck my big fat one, Carlson! #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:25:00 PM EDT

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I'm sorry, @simonsaybrams but... this shit is hot. Seriously. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:24:00 PM EDT

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@droidguy1119 Zeppo Gainsbourg May 28, 2011 10:23:57 PM EDT
           


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Oh hey, a BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI reference. Either that or a prototype for the bridge scene in that Filipino ET ripoff. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:23:09 PM EDT

           
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The Bridge on the River Sappho #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:22:35 PM EDT via web
            
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@simonsaybrams Fuckin' A, I was gonna make a Gainsbourg joke! May 28, 2011 10:22:18 PM EDT
           
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Next time I go karaoke-ing, I'm doing this song. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:21:47 PM EDT

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Who the fuck is singing this song? Stooge Gainsbourg, Serge's dumb, talentless younger brother? #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:21:31 PM EDT


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Ok, this horeseback scene is surprisingly well-shot. Looks like a Marlboro ad. But sure, well-shot. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:20:41 PM EDT via web
            
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"Tell your master he's out of luck. He arrived too late. Too late! And now we cannot fight for our honor!" #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:20:36 PM EDT


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"You know my name, but I don't know yours." "Emir Kusturica." "No kidding!" #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:18:34 PM EDT via web


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"We all practice idleness as a fine art." The dormant angry leftie inside is screaming right now. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:17:32 PM EDT

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@calummarsh Thanks! :) May 28, 2011 10:17:08 PM EDT


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Note how anxious the ferryman is to understand what the two women are talking about. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:16:12 PM EDT via web

           
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You all need to follow @simonsaybrams immediately. He's live-tweeting on a whole 'nother level right now. May 28, 2011 10:15:58 PM EDT
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This is a very rare yet important quality in erotica. (See also: Kristine DeBell, Jacqueline Lovell.) May 28, 2011 10:14:30 PM EDT
Simonsaybrams:   "On your left is Apichatpong Weerasethakul's place. He's kind of a big deal in the not-too-distant future." #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:14:05 PM EDT

           
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Also, if I may say so - Sylvia Kristel is goddamned cute. Not sultry or imposing - CUTE. i.e. accessible. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:13:20 PM EDT

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"Here, take this duct tape bracelet I made you. For luck." #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:11:46 PM EDT
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@simonsaybrams Well, note I did say "it's trying." Tell ya what - watch some mid-'90s softcore and tell me I'm wrong. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:10:58 PM EDT


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@LCosgrove Didn't you say that to me last night? #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:10:09 PM EDT

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@simonsaybrams Both, plus Jaeckin has a fair eye. All porn should look this good. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:09:58 PM EDT

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@LCosgrove Oh come on, this script is no better than a RED SHOES DIARY title. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:09:47 PM EDT
           

           
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@LCosgrove Because its sex scenes are effective? Or because everything in it is tolerably ridiculous? #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:09:10 PM EDT

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"Hello, charming nymph!" I want to find a situation in which I can say that. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:08:52 PM EDT
           
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It's genuinely well-made, and it's trying to imbue at least its title character with some measure of depth. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:08:11 PM EDT
           
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Seriously, though, if I may cast aside the snark for a bit: I can see why this film legitimized erotica for a bit. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:07:36 PM EDT
           
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You know, I'm not not enjoying this film. Sometimes. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:07:13 PM EDT
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"Poor darling, you're all wet." *rimshot* *heavybreathing* *pornfunk* *wah-wah* #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:06:37 PM EDT
           
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"I haven't yet become... the woman you deserve." Lady, you're way above this douche's pay grade. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:03:43 PM EDT
           
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@simonsaybrams So all they had aboard were shiksas? Man, sorry bud. *rimshot* #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:03:12 PM EDT
                       
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@LCosgrove That almost happened on Air France. Then they corrected their mistake, gave me the kosher meal. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 10:01:01 PM EDT
           

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I think that plane was a phallic symbol. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 9:59:47 PM EDT via web
            
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This shit has never happened on a flight I've been on. NEVER. Is this reserved for first class? #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 9:58:45 PM EDT

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It's the candles-and-bubblebath to regular ol' porn's stained-Hustler-mag-behind-a-dumpster. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 9:57:08 PM EDT
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Gotta admit, I'm impressed with how tony this is for, y'know, smut. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 9:56:05 PM EDT
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You know, now I actually /am/ excited for Alex Cox's doc on the history of the EMMANUELLE series. Should be...edifying. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 9:55:48 PM EDT via web
            
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I want a pair of chair swings like that! #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 9:54:41 PM EDT
           
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"I learned all by myself." If someone else taught you to rub it out at 12... well, that's a whole barrel of questions. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 9:54:19 PM EDT
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"I think it's perfectly normal, don't you?" "What, 'bating while jazz guitar and drums play? Sure, normal, yeah." #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 9:53:43 PM EDT

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Woo hoo solitary handshake FTW! #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 9:53:09 PM EDT
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"Come. Let's go someplace else." Translation: This house costs lotsa money to shoot in. We're getting our money's worth. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 9:52:21 PM EDT

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Paul Newman probably did not give his consent to have his likeliness used in this way. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 9:52:19 PM EDT via web
 

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@simonsaybrams Saltpeter lolly. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 9:50:42 PM EDT
           
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What she doesn't know is that that lolly is actually an analgesic. #redrockemmanuelle 8:49 PM May 28th
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This film certainly enjoys its X rating. Lookit all that underwater pool bush! #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 9:49:03 PM EDT
           
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"I'd like to talk to you." "Not now, this full frontal swim scene is slated to last for another 20 minutes." #redrockemmanuelle 8:49 PM May 28th
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@simonsaybrams Fuck 'em if they can't appreciate tweets about Sylvia Kristel. May 28, 2011 9:48:24 PM EDT
           
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If none of these topless chicks start making out, I'm-a feel cheated. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 9:46:17 PM EDT
                       
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Quality control shot: Attractive woman, attractive woman, woman, yeti, attractive woman, attractive woman, doberman #redrockemmanuelle 8:46 PM May 28th via web 
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Hey, remember when this happened in STRAW DOGS and it was all kinds of fucked up? Here, it's just part of the background. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 9:44:57 PM EDT
           
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Voyeurism makes Sulu HAWT. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 9:43:21 PM EDT
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First sight of fuckin': 11 minutes in. Not bad for softcore. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 9:42:23 PM EDT



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Is this dude's smarmy indifference to the surrounding poverty supposed to endear me to him? 'Cause, well... it don't. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 9:41:10 PM EDT

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"You there, Harem Wifes #1-13, go reap the opium. Houseboy #12, you go supervise." #redrockemmanuelle 8:40 PM May 28th


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Oh, yeah. Severed chicked heads. Sooooo horny. Skinemax here I come! #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 9:39:36 PM EDT
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If you drive a car like that down a street like that, you're just showing off and you're a horrible person. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 9:38:37 PM EDT
             
           
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"wild with impatience to see what you're like"... oh hell, like I need to translate that for anyone here. #redrockemmanuelle May 28, 2011 9:37:36 PM EDT
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"Well, gotta go. Say bye to my boner." #redrockemmanuelle 8:36 PM May 28th
           
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Just Jaecken: what a great name for a porn director. #redrockemmanuelle 8:34 PM May 28th
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Nice stockings. #redrockemmanuelle 8:34 PM May 28th
           
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That's probably more than any of you care to know. #redrockemmanuelle 8:33 PM May 28th
           
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I don't remember the first softcore flick I ever saw. I know my first hardcore was John Stagliano's WILD GOOSE CHASE. #redrockemmanuelle 8:33 PM May 28th
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My boss said EMMANUELLE was the first pornographic film he ever saw, softcore or otherwise. #redrockemmanuelle 8:32 PM May 28th

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Got a small plate of pasta and a big glass of mediocre Malbec. Let's do this. #redrockemmanuelle 8:30 PM May 28th via web

  


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